What started off as a conversation about Shane Carruth’s dense, cerebral film, Upstream Color, didn’t take long to turn into a discussion about the current state of film and a plea for people (and cinemas) to make room in their lives for art.

This week’s guest is London, Ontario-based, award-winning filmmaker Jason R. Gray.

You can watch Jason’s first two short films on his Vimeo page.

The theatre Jason mentions is London’s Hyland Cinema.

As mentioned at the end of the episode, NetFlakes now has a ongoing Patreon campaign, if you’d like the opportunity to throw some (financial) support our way.